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		<title>By: Andy - New Haven, CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy - New Haven, CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well &quot;Mike&quot; ... apparently you&#039;re 7 years old. Either that or you have a REALLY bad memory because this cycle has been rinsing and repeating for 70 years. 

We&#039;ve seen it specifically in housing in the 80&#039;s ... and with the dot-coms of the late 90&#039;s. 

I *really* hope that you&#039;re ignorant enough to think that our housing market will never recover. Because I&#039;d be happy to buy the property you missed out at to the tune of 30% gains in 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8220;Mike&#8221; &#8230; apparently you&#8217;re 7 years old. Either that or you have a REALLY bad memory because this cycle has been rinsing and repeating for 70 years. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve seen it specifically in housing in the 80&#8217;s &#8230; and with the dot-coms of the late 90&#8217;s. </p>
<p>I *really* hope that you&#8217;re ignorant enough to think that our housing market will never recover. Because I&#8217;d be happy to buy the property you missed out at to the tune of 30% gains in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Missbaysdaddy, Fort Worth, Tx.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missbaysdaddy, Fort Worth, Tx.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As just two of the 65 million Baby Boomers that were raised by parents that grew up during the depression 1929 - 1935 we were taught to save part of what we made during the years we worked.  My wife and I as I think many other Baby Boomers did save during the years we worked.  Now retired at ages 61 and 62 we are dependent on our savings to make extra income from the interest on our money.  I have a retirement from the company I worked for plus the interest our CD&#039;s, Stocks, Bonds make.  If the interest rate drops below 4 percent our standard of living goes down.  We are forced to live on less and therefore spend less.  We are not going to spend our principal and have even less to live on so until the feds raise the interest rates we spend less.  If enough of us are not spending because we are not making a decent return on our savings the economy is going to have to get alone without us buying a new TV or PC, or car or truck or anything else beyond just what it takes to get by another month.  My wife and I have stopped travling for pleasure over a year ago and will not plan on going anywhere until our saving start making better than 5 or 6 percent per year.  The way things are now we have a tough time getting better than 4 percent and have to shop around to get even that.  If things don&#039;t improve soon my wife and I both may be forced into drawing our social security 3 or 4 years sooner than we had originally planned just to make ends meet. I would like to wait until age 66 to draw it but may be forced to draw on it early and take less just to get by and still have some savings.  We currently have 90 percent of our savings in fixed assets and 10 percent in stocks, bonds and mutual funds, all of which are not breaking any records earning anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As just two of the 65 million Baby Boomers that were raised by parents that grew up during the depression 1929 &#8211; 1935 we were taught to save part of what we made during the years we worked.  My wife and I as I think many other Baby Boomers did save during the years we worked.  Now retired at ages 61 and 62 we are dependent on our savings to make extra income from the interest on our money.  I have a retirement from the company I worked for plus the interest our CD&#8217;s, Stocks, Bonds make.  If the interest rate drops below 4 percent our standard of living goes down.  We are forced to live on less and therefore spend less.  We are not going to spend our principal and have even less to live on so until the feds raise the interest rates we spend less.  If enough of us are not spending because we are not making a decent return on our savings the economy is going to have to get alone without us buying a new TV or PC, or car or truck or anything else beyond just what it takes to get by another month.  My wife and I have stopped travling for pleasure over a year ago and will not plan on going anywhere until our saving start making better than 5 or 6 percent per year.  The way things are now we have a tough time getting better than 4 percent and have to shop around to get even that.  If things don&#8217;t improve soon my wife and I both may be forced into drawing our social security 3 or 4 years sooner than we had originally planned just to make ends meet. I would like to wait until age 66 to draw it but may be forced to draw on it early and take less just to get by and still have some savings.  We currently have 90 percent of our savings in fixed assets and 10 percent in stocks, bonds and mutual funds, all of which are not breaking any records earning anything.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin horan - new port richey - florida</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin horan - new port richey - florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fed rate cuts will not work and here is why. credit has tightened with &quot;A&quot; paper mortgage money now requiring a 740 score with 20% down where a 560 score used to suffice with 0-5% down. home equity lines for many folks have been exhausted or outright pulled as the banks cancel HELOC&#039;S to avoid plunging real estate values. credit card companies are scaling back high balances because they are scared that the average homeowner who existed on home equity, HELOC&#039;S and easy money will charge up their cards to the limit and file bankruptcy (the next crisis for the banks). jobs, if you believe the fed #&#039;s are soaring and anecdotal evidence shows folks cannot get work. companies continue to downsize and squeeze more work out of less folks or throw up their hands and offshore source. in the meantime, the government continues to spend like its Kansas while all the signs show fiscal need. not to mention, our unwinnable involvement in two wars and runaway defecits. so, no, rate cuts mean nothing and if we continue to ignore these important issues while our two best candidates trade school yard barbs, we are in for some serious trouble, the likes which we have never seen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fed rate cuts will not work and here is why. credit has tightened with &#8220;A&#8221; paper mortgage money now requiring a 740 score with 20% down where a 560 score used to suffice with 0-5% down. home equity lines for many folks have been exhausted or outright pulled as the banks cancel HELOC&#8217;S to avoid plunging real estate values. credit card companies are scaling back high balances because they are scared that the average homeowner who existed on home equity, HELOC&#8217;S and easy money will charge up their cards to the limit and file bankruptcy (the next crisis for the banks). jobs, if you believe the fed #&#8217;s are soaring and anecdotal evidence shows folks cannot get work. companies continue to downsize and squeeze more work out of less folks or throw up their hands and offshore source. in the meantime, the government continues to spend like its Kansas while all the signs show fiscal need. not to mention, our unwinnable involvement in two wars and runaway defecits. so, no, rate cuts mean nothing and if we continue to ignore these important issues while our two best candidates trade school yard barbs, we are in for some serious trouble, the likes which we have never seen</p>
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		<title>By: Mike san Ramon,Ca.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike san Ramon,Ca.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Andy,you astound us.From 2002 to 2007 was a big fat bubble.Kenndy at the Fed said that between those years 500 billion per year was taken out of home equity.Now Andy, how much a year do you think is being taken out of home equity and where do you think the difference is going to be made up from to keep the GDP growing? And since the historical average for home ownership was around 62% and during the bubble went to around 68% where do you think the buyers are going to come from to buy all the excess houses.Please respond Andy,I&#039;m dying to find out if you&#039;re dumb or just stupid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Andy,you astound us.From 2002 to 2007 was a big fat bubble.Kenndy at the Fed said that between those years 500 billion per year was taken out of home equity.Now Andy, how much a year do you think is being taken out of home equity and where do you think the difference is going to be made up from to keep the GDP growing? And since the historical average for home ownership was around 62% and during the bubble went to around 68% where do you think the buyers are going to come from to buy all the excess houses.Please respond Andy,I&#8217;m dying to find out if you&#8217;re dumb or just stupid!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy - New Haven, CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy - New Haven, CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rate cuts have already worked, Paul. The sky never fell (like you predicted it would).

You people astound me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rate cuts have already worked, Paul. The sky never fell (like you predicted it would).</p>
<p>You people astound me.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Phila. PA</title>
		<link>http://cnnmoneytalkback.blogs.cnnmoney.cnn.com/2008/09/04/why-the-fed-cuts-havent-worked/#comment-19002</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Phila. PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I&#039;m wrong.  With the dollar soaring and other currencies  going lower, who is it that will recover first the US or them.

Our exports were doing well with a lower dollar and now most believe will not do as well.  Most say that a strong economy translates into a strong currency, am I missing something. 

So I ask the question, why is the dollar going higher now? Now that every other country is doing as poorly as we are now why does the dollar rally and we suffer. 

OK, with higher currencies abroad they were effectly exporting their inflation back overseas.  But at the same time they were buying more of our goods and services.  Exports were up and companies were doing better. 

I thought the dollar was to flat freely with other currencies.  Now it seems that with lower oil prices that we all screamed for, the dollar has been driven back up hurting our economy.  Why does the dollar have to be tied to oil.  We can&#039;t win, oil goes up we suffer, oil goes down we suffer. Its the &quot;Best of Times and the Worst of Times&quot;. Tale of Two Cities.  

I think it is time the Fed starts on a campain of selling dollars to push the currency back to netural and get back our competitive edge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.  With the dollar soaring and other currencies  going lower, who is it that will recover first the US or them.</p>
<p>Our exports were doing well with a lower dollar and now most believe will not do as well.  Most say that a strong economy translates into a strong currency, am I missing something. </p>
<p>So I ask the question, why is the dollar going higher now? Now that every other country is doing as poorly as we are now why does the dollar rally and we suffer. </p>
<p>OK, with higher currencies abroad they were effectly exporting their inflation back overseas.  But at the same time they were buying more of our goods and services.  Exports were up and companies were doing better. </p>
<p>I thought the dollar was to flat freely with other currencies.  Now it seems that with lower oil prices that we all screamed for, the dollar has been driven back up hurting our economy.  Why does the dollar have to be tied to oil.  We can&#8217;t win, oil goes up we suffer, oil goes down we suffer. Its the &#8220;Best of Times and the Worst of Times&#8221;. Tale of Two Cities.  </p>
<p>I think it is time the Fed starts on a campain of selling dollars to push the currency back to netural and get back our competitive edge.</p>
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		<title>By: Terri L. San Diego, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri L. San Diego, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to learn how our money is REALLY created, watch &#039;Money as Debt&#039; at Google. 

Although the Fed prints money, it actually stimulates a lot more than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to learn how our money is REALLY created, watch &#8216;Money as Debt&#8217; at Google. </p>
<p>Although the Fed prints money, it actually stimulates a lot more than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence, VA Beach</title>
		<link>http://cnnmoneytalkback.blogs.cnnmoney.cnn.com/2008/09/04/why-the-fed-cuts-havent-worked/#comment-18867</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence, VA Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, fed interest rate policy can only help or hurt the US economy to the extent tht it affects the value of our currency.  To oversimplify, rate cuts = weaker dollar = higher exports (and hence employment) but also higher inflation.  And vice versa.

I see preference for fed acion breaking into two camps: 

(i) working age folks - the would benefit from lower rates/inflation.  Wages will eventually rise over time with inflation and they&#039;d at least have jobs because of strong exports. Also, the true value of their debt will decrease. Will wage increases match inflation?  Probably not, unless we rebuild the productive (non-financial/real estate/service) parts of our economy.  But working people would be better off than under the other scenario (esp. the younger ones).

(ii) retirees and near-retirees who have accumulated assets and would suffer from lower purchasing power due to inflation, essentially a devaluation of their assets.  Unfortunately, these folks are the baby boomers.  If they vote en mass to pursue a strong dollar policy to preserve their assets, we&#039;re in for a long, slow slide into depression, which they can watch on CNN from the comfort of their golf course homes.  Of course, the baby boomers have never shown any capacity to act in any manner other than their crass self-interest.

The country has gone stray and we&#039;re in for difficult times one way or the other.  To wax poetic, the US economy will end in fire (inflation) or in ice (deflation/depression).  If in ice, it will be a fitting capstone on the legacy of the most destructive and self-congratulatory cohort of Americans to have ever existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, fed interest rate policy can only help or hurt the US economy to the extent tht it affects the value of our currency.  To oversimplify, rate cuts = weaker dollar = higher exports (and hence employment) but also higher inflation.  And vice versa.</p>
<p>I see preference for fed acion breaking into two camps: </p>
<p>(i) working age folks &#8211; the would benefit from lower rates/inflation.  Wages will eventually rise over time with inflation and they&#8217;d at least have jobs because of strong exports. Also, the true value of their debt will decrease. Will wage increases match inflation?  Probably not, unless we rebuild the productive (non-financial/real estate/service) parts of our economy.  But working people would be better off than under the other scenario (esp. the younger ones).</p>
<p>(ii) retirees and near-retirees who have accumulated assets and would suffer from lower purchasing power due to inflation, essentially a devaluation of their assets.  Unfortunately, these folks are the baby boomers.  If they vote en mass to pursue a strong dollar policy to preserve their assets, we&#8217;re in for a long, slow slide into depression, which they can watch on CNN from the comfort of their golf course homes.  Of course, the baby boomers have never shown any capacity to act in any manner other than their crass self-interest.</p>
<p>The country has gone stray and we&#8217;re in for difficult times one way or the other.  To wax poetic, the US economy will end in fire (inflation) or in ice (deflation/depression).  If in ice, it will be a fitting capstone on the legacy of the most destructive and self-congratulatory cohort of Americans to have ever existed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob P. Panama City, FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob P. Panama City, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like with an addict, Ben the friendly Government pusher wants to keep shoving the syringe in!  Pretty soon, the Fed will be paying us to take money!  It&#039;s turning into an Easydemic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like with an addict, Ben the friendly Government pusher wants to keep shoving the syringe in!  Pretty soon, the Fed will be paying us to take money!  It&#8217;s turning into an Easydemic!</p>
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		<title>By: larry, saugerties, ny</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry, saugerties, ny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There certainly seems to be a lot of confusion among readers about the role and function of the FED and monetary policy.  Readers aver that any one factor is the cause of our current problems based on a sound byte they heard somewhere, looking for simple solutions.  But none seem to look at the root cause - the monetary system itself - how money is created, and the factors that limit it.  

Money is created not by the FED, but by banks (although the FED can have some influence on the process, it does not actually fine tune it.)  And the banks are limited not so much by reserve ratios but by capital ratios.  If they need to borrow money for reserves that is never a problem, but if their capital falls short they risk having to fold up shop.

WIth a system based on loaning out money from private banks at interest, creating only the principal for the loans, unless additional new money is continually created (by loaning to other borrowers)  to enable borrowers to repay their loans the resulting credit contraction (or even a period of money supply growth at a rate smaller than the cost of capital) over time will cause borrowers to default in aggregate across the economy, causing banks to tighten lending.  

If borrowers default, the bank that created the money loaned to them must shrink loans by an amount equal to 1/the bank&#039;s reserve ratio (about 19x the loan amount) in order to maintain its capital ratio.  After the excess capital margin is gone, the bank has to stop lending to all but its best customers and will generally do so long before that.

So the FED rate cuts have at best a second-order impact on stimulating the economy because the banks really control the money supply and if their capital ratios are endangered lowering rates will have no impact.

The issue is really one of system design - a fractional reserve system in which banks are allowed to create money and loan out much more than they have on deposit is fundamentally unstable and prone to credit bubbles on the upside and similar positive feedback on the downside, hence we are told the &#039;business cycle&#039; is a natural part of our economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There certainly seems to be a lot of confusion among readers about the role and function of the FED and monetary policy.  Readers aver that any one factor is the cause of our current problems based on a sound byte they heard somewhere, looking for simple solutions.  But none seem to look at the root cause &#8211; the monetary system itself &#8211; how money is created, and the factors that limit it.  </p>
<p>Money is created not by the FED, but by banks (although the FED can have some influence on the process, it does not actually fine tune it.)  And the banks are limited not so much by reserve ratios but by capital ratios.  If they need to borrow money for reserves that is never a problem, but if their capital falls short they risk having to fold up shop.</p>
<p>WIth a system based on loaning out money from private banks at interest, creating only the principal for the loans, unless additional new money is continually created (by loaning to other borrowers)  to enable borrowers to repay their loans the resulting credit contraction (or even a period of money supply growth at a rate smaller than the cost of capital) over time will cause borrowers to default in aggregate across the economy, causing banks to tighten lending.  </p>
<p>If borrowers default, the bank that created the money loaned to them must shrink loans by an amount equal to 1/the bank&#8217;s reserve ratio (about 19x the loan amount) in order to maintain its capital ratio.  After the excess capital margin is gone, the bank has to stop lending to all but its best customers and will generally do so long before that.</p>
<p>So the FED rate cuts have at best a second-order impact on stimulating the economy because the banks really control the money supply and if their capital ratios are endangered lowering rates will have no impact.</p>
<p>The issue is really one of system design &#8211; a fractional reserve system in which banks are allowed to create money and loan out much more than they have on deposit is fundamentally unstable and prone to credit bubbles on the upside and similar positive feedback on the downside, hence we are told the &#8216;business cycle&#8217; is a natural part of our economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayson, Flanders, NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayson, Flanders, NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rate cuts didn&#039;t work because the lack of liquidity in the system was due to banks not having enough capital - it had nothing to do with the actual price of money, but lack of supply...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rate cuts didn&#8217;t work because the lack of liquidity in the system was due to banks not having enough capital &#8211; it had nothing to do with the actual price of money, but lack of supply&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Morris  Placentia, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morris  Placentia, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The federal funds rate is an overnight bank lending rate that banks charge each other to borrow money. But Rosengren argues that just because banks are charging each other a relatively low rate, this does &quot;not necessarily translate into lower costs to the vast majority of borrowers.&quot;

In other words, even though the Fed has slashed the federal funds rate from 5.25% to 2%, many beaten-up banks have nevertheless substantially tightened credit standards for businesses and consumers.&quot; 

The Fed cuts were for the banks, not for we common people. Don&#039;t be fooled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The federal funds rate is an overnight bank lending rate that banks charge each other to borrow money. But Rosengren argues that just because banks are charging each other a relatively low rate, this does &#8220;not necessarily translate into lower costs to the vast majority of borrowers.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, even though the Fed has slashed the federal funds rate from 5.25% to 2%, many beaten-up banks have nevertheless substantially tightened credit standards for businesses and consumers.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Fed cuts were for the banks, not for we common people. Don&#8217;t be fooled.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Larson, King City CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Larson, King City CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lower interest rates can make the dollar weaker.  For those of you who have forgotten your basic economics that means US goods are cheaoer abroad and imported goods are more expensive here.  That means more good jobs and in the end a better economy.

A weaker dollar also gives business a big incentive to develop alternate energy sources and reduces our demand for foreign oil.  That all might mean short term pain, but long term gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lower interest rates can make the dollar weaker.  For those of you who have forgotten your basic economics that means US goods are cheaoer abroad and imported goods are more expensive here.  That means more good jobs and in the end a better economy.</p>
<p>A weaker dollar also gives business a big incentive to develop alternate energy sources and reduces our demand for foreign oil.  That all might mean short term pain, but long term gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean, Las Vegas, NV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean, Las Vegas, NV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fed rate cuts worked during the 2001 recession because the US had a very large budget surplus, low defense expenditures, and cheap energy.

Today, we are bogged down in two wars, we have a $500 billion budget deficit, exploding defense expenditures, and ridiculously high energy prices.  With the government borrowing so much money, they directly compete for capital in the markets, which raises interest rates.  If you&#039;re an investor looking for an ultra safe investment, do you buy a US Government T-Bill or a Fannie Mae Mortgage Bond?  The answer is pretty obvious.

The situation today is much like the early 1980&#039;s when the budget deficit ballooned.  Any rate cuts go directly into gas tanks or to bank profits, which really only keep the banks from outright failing and making the situation worse.

The current economic situation will only be resolved when the US government brings it&#039;s fiscal house in order.  The 2001 tax cuts, which were predicated on a &quot;peace dividend&quot;, need to be repealed or expired and the government needs to stop spending money.  The government needs to get out of the capital markets for the situation to get better.

Additionally, the energy cost situation needs to improved.  We need to be looking for ways to keep the currency spent on energy at home, through US based alternative fuels *and* domestic oil production.

Basically, the rate cuts aren&#039;t working because of the US budget deficit, high oil prices, and high defense spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fed rate cuts worked during the 2001 recession because the US had a very large budget surplus, low defense expenditures, and cheap energy.</p>
<p>Today, we are bogged down in two wars, we have a $500 billion budget deficit, exploding defense expenditures, and ridiculously high energy prices.  With the government borrowing so much money, they directly compete for capital in the markets, which raises interest rates.  If you&#8217;re an investor looking for an ultra safe investment, do you buy a US Government T-Bill or a Fannie Mae Mortgage Bond?  The answer is pretty obvious.</p>
<p>The situation today is much like the early 1980&#8217;s when the budget deficit ballooned.  Any rate cuts go directly into gas tanks or to bank profits, which really only keep the banks from outright failing and making the situation worse.</p>
<p>The current economic situation will only be resolved when the US government brings it&#8217;s fiscal house in order.  The 2001 tax cuts, which were predicated on a &#8220;peace dividend&#8221;, need to be repealed or expired and the government needs to stop spending money.  The government needs to get out of the capital markets for the situation to get better.</p>
<p>Additionally, the energy cost situation needs to improved.  We need to be looking for ways to keep the currency spent on energy at home, through US based alternative fuels *and* domestic oil production.</p>
<p>Basically, the rate cuts aren&#8217;t working because of the US budget deficit, high oil prices, and high defense spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric, Houston, Texas</title>
		<link>http://cnnmoneytalkback.blogs.cnnmoney.cnn.com/2008/09/04/why-the-fed-cuts-havent-worked/#comment-18858</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric, Houston, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They just don&#039;t get it.  First, when,  as a nation, you stop making anything (production) the money gets recycled until it is worthless.  Second, American&#039;s are broke and in too much debt, it&#039;s that simple.  The politicians need to realize it and stop the spending (at all levels).  Taxes need to be flat, fair and uniform.  Corporate taxes need to be flat, fair and uniform (like a VAT).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just don&#8217;t get it.  First, when,  as a nation, you stop making anything (production) the money gets recycled until it is worthless.  Second, American&#8217;s are broke and in too much debt, it&#8217;s that simple.  The politicians need to realize it and stop the spending (at all levels).  Taxes need to be flat, fair and uniform.  Corporate taxes need to be flat, fair and uniform (like a VAT).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter, San Jose, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter, San Jose, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been syaing that the data is totally off base for a while.

Here is prove:
&quot;The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that the Commodity Futures Exchange Commission is investigating whether companies are reporting false oil inventory levels to benefit their trading positions.

However, EIA spokesman Jonathan Cogan said the agency is unaware of any such probe.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been syaing that the data is totally off base for a while.</p>
<p>Here is prove:<br />
&#8220;The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that the Commodity Futures Exchange Commission is investigating whether companies are reporting false oil inventory levels to benefit their trading positions.</p>
<p>However, EIA spokesman Jonathan Cogan said the agency is unaware of any such probe.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dw, dallas, tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw, dallas, tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the cuts mean much any more and haven&#039;t for a while. They have nothing to do with the individuals loans, and barely any thing to do with business loans. They are more of a feel good thing. As long as banks are hurting for profits, and they are, they won&#039;t be relaxing their loan rules any time soon. And since the big ATM (your house) is on the fritz, the economy will continue to tank. And wages will not go up, since we are competing with the 3rd world. So when the current commodities boom crashes, we will probably be in for deflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the cuts mean much any more and haven&#8217;t for a while. They have nothing to do with the individuals loans, and barely any thing to do with business loans. They are more of a feel good thing. As long as banks are hurting for profits, and they are, they won&#8217;t be relaxing their loan rules any time soon. And since the big ATM (your house) is on the fritz, the economy will continue to tank. And wages will not go up, since we are competing with the 3rd world. So when the current commodities boom crashes, we will probably be in for deflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt, Cambridge MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt, Cambridge MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do we need a solid $ that stays stable relative to life, commodities and other nations? Yes, we really really do. But how to do it is the trick. Finding some “thing” to tie it to that stays stable relative to those things is proving to be problematic.&quot;

It&#039;s pretty much impossible given today&#039;s economy.  When the &quot;value&quot; of your country is tied strongly to hard goods, natural resources, manufacturing capacity, etc., everyone can mostly agree on what it&#039;s actually worth.  Up until the middle of the 20th century, that still worked, at least sort of.

But when a big chunk of &quot;the economy&quot; is information technology, financial services, etc., it&#039;s nearly impossible to put a price tag on what your currency should actually be valued at.  It&#039;s sort of like how the market capitalization of a company can sometimes have little correlation to its actual hard assets.  (e.g. How much is Google really &quot;worth&quot; versus their market cap?)  Floating currencies have their issues, but non-floating currencies are pretty much untenable these days.

As far as inflation... the Fed has less control over real rates than you might think.  They can put a floor on interest rates to some extent, but what consumers and small businesses are going to pay depends on how willing banks are to make the loans -- and, increasingly, on how willing private investors are to back them.  The worse the overall economic situation, the more of a safety cushion lenders/investors will want on top of the fed rates.

&quot;I like the fact they say they need to raise rates to fight inflation and everyone goes along with the myth. When they say they are fighting inflation and rise (sic) rates they mean they are fighting to keep inflation alive.&quot;

One of the economic theories guiding the US since WWII has been that low levels of inflation are safer and easier to maintain than either trying to keep no inflation or flipping back and forth between inflation and deflation, so I guess that in some sense they are always &quot;trying to keep inflation alive&quot;.  Right now it may be impossible, since it seems like so many investments were overvalued by so much over the last few years.

Raising interest rates DOES tend to reduce overall inflation, because it reduces the incentive to borrow money.  The cheaper it is to borrow money, the more leveraged most financial institutions will get, and the more total money will be in circulation.  Of course, some of the effects depend on how you define &quot;inflation&quot;, and that is far from the only factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do we need a solid $ that stays stable relative to life, commodities and other nations? Yes, we really really do. But how to do it is the trick. Finding some “thing” to tie it to that stays stable relative to those things is proving to be problematic.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty much impossible given today&#8217;s economy.  When the &#8220;value&#8221; of your country is tied strongly to hard goods, natural resources, manufacturing capacity, etc., everyone can mostly agree on what it&#8217;s actually worth.  Up until the middle of the 20th century, that still worked, at least sort of.</p>
<p>But when a big chunk of &#8220;the economy&#8221; is information technology, financial services, etc., it&#8217;s nearly impossible to put a price tag on what your currency should actually be valued at.  It&#8217;s sort of like how the market capitalization of a company can sometimes have little correlation to its actual hard assets.  (e.g. How much is Google really &#8220;worth&#8221; versus their market cap?)  Floating currencies have their issues, but non-floating currencies are pretty much untenable these days.</p>
<p>As far as inflation&#8230; the Fed has less control over real rates than you might think.  They can put a floor on interest rates to some extent, but what consumers and small businesses are going to pay depends on how willing banks are to make the loans &#8212; and, increasingly, on how willing private investors are to back them.  The worse the overall economic situation, the more of a safety cushion lenders/investors will want on top of the fed rates.</p>
<p>&#8220;I like the fact they say they need to raise rates to fight inflation and everyone goes along with the myth. When they say they are fighting inflation and rise (sic) rates they mean they are fighting to keep inflation alive.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the economic theories guiding the US since WWII has been that low levels of inflation are safer and easier to maintain than either trying to keep no inflation or flipping back and forth between inflation and deflation, so I guess that in some sense they are always &#8220;trying to keep inflation alive&#8221;.  Right now it may be impossible, since it seems like so many investments were overvalued by so much over the last few years.</p>
<p>Raising interest rates DOES tend to reduce overall inflation, because it reduces the incentive to borrow money.  The cheaper it is to borrow money, the more leveraged most financial institutions will get, and the more total money will be in circulation.  Of course, some of the effects depend on how you define &#8220;inflation&#8221;, and that is far from the only factor.</p>
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		<title>By: T Linnell, San Diego, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Linnell, San Diego, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fed rate cut worked exactly like it should have. It was a textbook manuveur. It created the expected inflation, which followed by the expected wage demand. The wage demand in turn made it easier to pay those rediculous mortgages and high credit card payments. They should do more of them. Personally, we&#039;d like another raise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fed rate cut worked exactly like it should have. It was a textbook manuveur. It created the expected inflation, which followed by the expected wage demand. The wage demand in turn made it easier to pay those rediculous mortgages and high credit card payments. They should do more of them. Personally, we&#8217;d like another raise.</p>
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		<title>By: John   Duluth, MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>John   Duluth, MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The economy is in the tank, and going further into it, because &quot;we&quot; borrowed up to our eyeballs to buy goodies in the short run that should have been spread over a few decades.  Now it is finally time to pay back those loans and that cuts seriously into current spending.  Lower interest rates do nothing to help pay back debt - but they do help those of us who aren&#039;t in the &quot;we&quot; group above, thank you very much Fed!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The economy is in the tank, and going further into it, because &#8220;we&#8221; borrowed up to our eyeballs to buy goodies in the short run that should have been spread over a few decades.  Now it is finally time to pay back those loans and that cuts seriously into current spending.  Lower interest rates do nothing to help pay back debt &#8211; but they do help those of us who aren&#8217;t in the &#8220;we&#8221; group above, thank you very much Fed!!</p>
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